Comments on: The end of the American love affair with cars http://www.muddywatersmx.net/2009/06/02/the-end-of-the-american-love-affair-with-cars/ An unconventional look at the world of moto Thu, 29 Jul 2010 04:07:19 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=abc hourly 1 By: Terry Frazier http://www.muddywatersmx.net/2009/06/02/the-end-of-the-american-love-affair-with-cars/comment-page-1/#comment-39 Terry Frazier Sat, 13 Jun 2009 03:05:50 +0000 http://www.muddywatersmx.net/?p=697#comment-39 Bill, You're spot-on about the Brit scene. Great stuff there. The whole vintage/2-stroke/twin-shock movement is really strong. I get several Brit mags, just to keep up with what's going on over there. I'll check out the XC series and post some stuff on the Brit mags. There's a great tech article on stainless steel I've been meaning to post... Bill,

You’re spot-on about the Brit scene. Great stuff there. The whole vintage/2-stroke/twin-shock movement is really strong. I get several Brit mags, just to keep up with what’s going on over there. I’ll check out the XC series and post some stuff on the Brit mags. There’s a great tech article on stainless steel I’ve been meaning to post…

]]> By: bill http://www.muddywatersmx.net/2009/06/02/the-end-of-the-american-love-affair-with-cars/comment-page-1/#comment-38 bill Wed, 10 Jun 2009 19:55:44 +0000 http://www.muddywatersmx.net/?p=697#comment-38 Terry; I did not presume that P.J. and the WSJ were not in and of themselves complicit in what has become these United States, i would suggest that their view of reality is clouded by their ideology and social positions. Your correct in saying that we are led by interests other than our selfs. Anyway enough of that. I enjoyed the post on the way the MX tracks have changed to accommodate 4 strokes is remarkable, and the change in styles of riding to better suit them. I don't know that the new venues are as difficult to ride or are just a fad. Interestly enough some of the Europeon riders prefer the German and Swedish GP's because they are old school. Your articles on the big fours marketing practices really is revealing, it ties in nicely with our political dicussion. I may mention a site that i follow to remember what MX was, and it is the Great Britian XC series. You would enjoy the fact that the 2-stroke class is very popular and that the venues are so like they were in the 70's. It's remarlable isn't it that Gas-Gas and TM, Husky and KTM are so popular because of the cost and fun factor. I've wondered for yrs. what the dirt mag's mean by a bike feeling _-very euro --you get my drift with regards to marketing. Thanks Terry. Terry;
I did not presume that P.J. and the WSJ were not in and of themselves complicit in what has become these United States, i would suggest that their view of reality is clouded by their ideology and social positions. Your correct in saying that we are led by interests other than our selfs. Anyway enough of that.
I enjoyed the post on the way the MX tracks have changed to accommodate 4 strokes is remarkable, and the change in styles of riding to better suit them. I don’t know that the new venues are as difficult to ride or are just a fad. Interestly enough some of the Europeon riders prefer the German and Swedish GP’s because they are old school. Your articles on the big fours marketing practices really is revealing, it ties in nicely with our political dicussion. I may mention a site that i follow to remember what MX was, and it is the Great Britian XC series. You would enjoy the fact that the 2-stroke class is very popular and that the venues are so like they were in the 70’s. It’s remarlable isn’t it that Gas-Gas and TM, Husky and KTM are so popular because of the cost and fun factor.
I’ve wondered for yrs. what the dirt mag’s mean by a bike feeling _-very euro –you get my drift with regards to marketing. Thanks Terry.

]]> By: Terry Frazier http://www.muddywatersmx.net/2009/06/02/the-end-of-the-american-love-affair-with-cars/comment-page-1/#comment-37 Terry Frazier Wed, 10 Jun 2009 13:47:29 +0000 http://www.muddywatersmx.net/?p=697#comment-37 Hi Bill. Thanks for stopping by and I'm glad you like the site. As for my anti-government slant, I don't need any help with that. If you read this site then you know that in the past year our industry and our sport have suffered the two largest losses in modern history with the CPSIA and Omnibus Lands bill -- both of which inflicted massive damage thanks to government shenanigans, corrupt politicians, and wanton do-gooderism by legions of bungling, panty-waist bureaucrats. The entire auto industry fiasco is driven by the same people and motivations. It is also connected to what is happening to us as off-road motorcyclists. It may be true that our love affair with the car is not literally dead (just as our love for motorcycles is not dead), it is equally true that the people making the laws and regulations have absolutely no respect for what we think or want. To them, it is dead and good riddance. You may not like O'Rourke or the Journal, and that's fine. But the idea that they are the ones hoodwinking us just isn't supported by the evidence. Hi Bill. Thanks for stopping by and I’m glad you like the site.

As for my anti-government slant, I don’t need any help with that. If you read this site then you know that in the past year our industry and our sport have suffered the two largest losses in modern history with the CPSIA and Omnibus Lands bill — both of which inflicted massive damage thanks to government shenanigans, corrupt politicians, and wanton do-gooderism by legions of bungling, panty-waist bureaucrats.

The entire auto industry fiasco is driven by the same people and motivations. It is also connected to what is happening to us as off-road motorcyclists. It may be true that our love affair with the car is not literally dead (just as our love for motorcycles is not dead), it is equally true that the people making the laws and regulations have absolutely no respect for what we think or want. To them, it is dead and good riddance.

You may not like O’Rourke or the Journal, and that’s fine. But the idea that they are the ones hoodwinking us just isn’t supported by the evidence.

]]> By: bill http://www.muddywatersmx.net/2009/06/02/the-end-of-the-american-love-affair-with-cars/comment-page-1/#comment-36 bill Tue, 09 Jun 2009 18:25:43 +0000 http://www.muddywatersmx.net/?p=697#comment-36 I enjoy your website a great deal,but; why not leave the P.J. O'rouke drama out. He only is playing to your anti-goverment slant. P.J. and the WSJ or Rush are gaming you kiddo. I come to your site for the news about real MX, not your political views. The coverage of freecasters is incredible isn't it? I am struck by the professionalism of the race announcers and the fact they also include the riders who are not in the top 3, something that has been a part of the europe's tradition forever. It bodes well to recognize that those riders are still very important and not just the latest star. The tracks are more complex in outlay and don't mirror a supercross track like in the USA.I think the riders are also better on the whole.Anyway keep up your work, 2 strokes will return even against the Japanese's wishes. I would suggest that the Europeon firms are setting the pace. Ah yes good old Jody, he never met an aftermarket part he didn't like or a Europeon bike he did. Thanks for your time. I enjoy your website a great deal,but; why not leave the P.J. O’rouke drama out. He only is playing to your anti-goverment slant. P.J. and the WSJ or Rush are gaming you kiddo. I come to your site for the news about real MX, not your political views.
The coverage of freecasters is incredible isn’t it? I am struck by the professionalism of the race announcers and the fact they also include the riders who are not in the top 3, something that has been a part of the europe’s tradition forever. It bodes well to recognize that those riders are still very important and not just the latest star. The tracks are more complex in outlay and don’t mirror a supercross track like in the USA.I think the riders are also better on the whole.Anyway keep up your work, 2 strokes will return even against the Japanese’s wishes. I would suggest that the Europeon firms are setting the pace. Ah yes good old Jody, he never met an aftermarket part he didn’t like or a Europeon bike he did. Thanks for your time.

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